What is the top complaint of women and couples on the site?  

community 34F
10322 posts
10/23/2013 4:42 pm
What is the top complaint of women and couples on the site?


Looking for the female perspective here...

Ladies, you are one --if not the most-- valuable elements of our community on this site. So tell me, what is your #1 complaint as a member here?

Feel free to list out other issues or frustrations you have in general when using the site, but please make note of what your top concern is.

I appreciate your participation here and look forward to learning more about what you think.

Thanks!

Aryana


rm_sagyvir2006 60M/54F
1 post
12/2/2013 4:07 pm


Sorry, we are just going to use common sense, Trans Date is suggesting we should renew our subscription, to a not good service.

We have required a new password several times, before our subscription was due.

WE HAD NO REPLY FROM Trans Date.


WE do not want messages from males or females without pics !!!!!
So, now we have males, without pics----can you filter them....we advise that she may pick a male...Not for males without pics to be sent to us...full pics. The deal is, if you want our money , you do need to give a more personalized service. We are not lost baggage.

MyJ


Centaur_UK 42M
1772 posts
11/30/2013 5:58 am

    Quoting scarletgirl0:


    oh I forgot to mention the Aldershot thing ,, to many peoples profiles default to Aldershot when they join ,, can you put a default to some where like the moon and list them at the maximum distance you can (384,400 km) ,, as Aldershot is only 22 miles from me I get the whole IM screen full of people who are miles and miles from me and stop me seeing who is local
    people can change there profile location later to where they truly are and not say they are around the corner from me

Speaking as a guy in the UK, i also find all of the profiles from Aldershot to be very annoying, as you point out it is the default or first option if the person does'nt fill out where they are from.
If a member fails to put in their geographical location when making their profile then the best option would be for the default to read..."prefer not to say", on the geographical location section of the profile. Also all those then with "prefer not to say" for geographical location should NEVER show up on the homepage and should always show up last in search results. This would encourage genuine members to fill out their profile properly, and fakes or people with "prefer not to say" on their profiles would get MINIMUM exposure on the site, which i think every genuine member here would welcome!
The same should apply for the default geographical locations in the USA and all other countries around the world.

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rm_c1ndy81 39F

11/29/2013 11:48 pm

Aryana...friends birthday notification,plz..there s none from a f f
Which made us passed friends bday..
Its impossible to check n memorize all friends bday
Its not like not all friends always gonna said..hey its my bday today
Unless at coincidence we check their profiles n notice


scarletgirl0 58F
839 posts
11/29/2013 5:34 pm



oh I forgot to mention the Aldershot thing ,, to many peoples profiles default to Aldershot when they join ,, can you put a default to some where like the moon and list them at the maximum distance you can (384,400 km) ,, as Aldershot is only 22 miles from me I get the whole IM screen full of people who are miles and miles from me and stop me seeing who is local
people can change there profile location later to where they truly are and not say they are around the corner from me


scarlet is at the end of your rainbow


scarletgirl0 58F
839 posts
11/29/2013 5:17 pm



there are too many old and too many duplicated profiles ,, I also don't like my profile being put on other sites when I only signed up to this one

I enjoy blogging but many people I speak too don't even know it exists ,, you should put a link to blogs on IM ,, where it says "Page or Profile" add blog if someone has one

I am getting bored with the type of pages I get here these days ,, because what someone expects of me it not in line with what I am looking for ,, so often I am only in the mood to chat to other bloggers


scarlet is at the end of your rainbow


rm_c1ndy81 39F

11/14/2013 7:54 pm

Aryana...im totally understand if standard members couldnt view pics...but its very sad when friend said..didnt undestand the benefit of friendfing with ppl when they couldnt even see their friends pics..friends from their own friend network just only a thumbnail there in friend activity
And im being asked by friend to send em my pics cuz they couldnt see ..they standard...which is...errr..bit how..not rite..
Why a f f couldnt make exception for standard member just this once..they only could view their friends pics..its not like they could view other member profiles outside their friend network... which is a priviledge to gold n silver members,rite??
Thank you..


Centaur_UK 42M
1772 posts
11/13/2013 2:50 pm

In the interests of balance and fairness Aryana are you going to do a separate blog entitled "Top complaints of men on the site"?
To casually dismiss the views and opinions of men as you seem to have done with the wording of this blog, frankly i find very offensive to say the least.
I have a list of complaints about this site 100 points long, but don't feel as though i can air my views or opinions here because you have only asked for the complaints from women and couples.
Are men not allowed to have a voice?
Just goes to show that the site is really not bothered with the concerns of its "majority" customer base here on this site which is the men.
I've stated complaints in various forms about message centre, fake profiles and other issues to customer services and on site support, community blog, live from Trans Date group time and time again, but these important issues never seem to be fully addressed for some reason?
We just seem to go round and round in circles, which from a members perspective is frustrating beyond belief!
As usual it seems Trans Date is NOT listening!


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CampoGirl 53F  
43371 posts
11/4/2013 10:58 am

When you add a picture to a private album, why does that picture show up on your profile page as recent activity for the world to see?

Putting a pic in a private album should be private don't you think? I got rid of my private album for this reason.

Not to say I dont have other complaints, like you all providing an oasis for pedophiles... and dont pretend you dont hon, Ive seen it OVER AND OVER.

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JustJane13 48F  
1577 posts
11/4/2013 8:46 am

    Quoting BeatriceBenedict:
    I had to pop back in here, and add one more specific thing that I forgot to mention before.

    When I block someone, or ESPECIALLY report them for abuse, I shouldn't have to keep seeing the thing which offended me in the first place, over and over again. And unless the thing that offended me is an email which I can delete (although if I'm reporting it, will deleting it cause any issues?), I have to keep seeing it again and again.

    I send a polite and respectful message, informing a TV/CD that I am not sexually attracted to women, so therefore am not interested in sexual companionship with someone who prefers to appear primarily as a woman (though admonishing that once again reading my profile would've explained that), so please stop flirting, hotlisting and sending friend requests. And the response I get is a picture of their cock with the message, "Here's the photo you wanted." Obviously, based on my attitudes toward respecting other people's preferences, I'm a little pissed.

    But then, unless you actually delete that person's profile, for weeks I have to keep seeing that person in my flirts and hotlists - and each time, I get pissed again (even if less so as time goes on). That's frustrating. If I block someone, I want to also be blocked from my seeing them - especially if I feel a behavior is egregious enough to go beyond just blocking them, to reporting them.
I agree on the blocking, if this feature could be updated that would be most helpful. Specifically, I do not need gay men or chicks who are looking for women showing up in my search results. Some of the photos are seriously over the top, I won't bother going into great detail, but I simply don't need to view all they're showing off. I can appreciate the "naughty or nice" filter, but that only blocks all or none. If I can block certain profiles, and have them not show again in search results / on my blog page etc that would be lovely.


rdy2try4 54F  
3194 posts
11/3/2013 7:04 pm

    Quoting BeatriceBenedict:
    I had to pop back in here, and add one more specific thing that I forgot to mention before.

    When I block someone, or ESPECIALLY report them for abuse, I shouldn't have to keep seeing the thing which offended me in the first place, over and over again. And unless the thing that offended me is an email which I can delete (although if I'm reporting it, will deleting it cause any issues?), I have to keep seeing it again and again.

    I send a polite and respectful message, informing a TV/CD that I am not sexually attracted to women, so therefore am not interested in sexual companionship with someone who prefers to appear primarily as a woman (though admonishing that once again reading my profile would've explained that), so please stop flirting, hotlisting and sending friend requests. And the response I get is a picture of their cock with the message, "Here's the photo you wanted." Obviously, based on my attitudes toward respecting other people's preferences, I'm a little pissed.

    But then, unless you actually delete that person's profile, for weeks I have to keep seeing that person in my flirts and hotlists - and each time, I get pissed again (even if less so as time goes on). That's frustrating. If I block someone, I want to also be blocked from my seeing them - especially if I feel a behavior is egregious enough to go beyond just blocking them, to reporting them.
That is wrong on all levels, and the idea that because you said you were not interested it meant you wanted to see his penis. What a freaking joke. Sorry that happened, but I can commiserate with you in that I have reported people only to get repeated responses from the abuse team asking exactly what I just sent them and including photos or screen captures.

I am not sure what ads the site has just released, but I have to tell you the level of mentality in the chatroom I am in just went lower than the flushed toilet. We have had a**hats all day today and one specifically was going on and on about he made a profile today with is woman and this site is not what he thought. He expecte people horny ALL the time and no questions asked sex. WTF is this crap now??? When people tried to tell him that this was not the way to start and a bad introduction he went off on us and started yelling that (giving specific people's names in the room) that they were not what they pretended to be. They were just a slutty whore that wanted to be f*cked as such and to quit putting on airs that she was some special person. Again, WTF???? We are now not special, but just holes and pieces of meat that are 'horny all the time'???? THIS is the behavior that ruins it for most. Even the men in our chatroom were b*tching at these losers today.


JN63JPN 57F  
26060 posts
11/3/2013 5:21 am

The site's always been glitchy ever since I joined over 4 years ago. But quality has been on a downhill slide. Features members never ask for get implemented, features members ask for improvement get put on the back burner.

The marketing strategy--it may be working to gain revenue from those desperate and gullible enough to swallow the marketing spiel hook, line and sinker, but the same strategy is also chasing away the women who get fed up by the constant disrespect of the said desperate and gullible. Without women, there would be no reason for men to be on this site. 2D encounters with webcam hotties only goes so far. What say the site hunkers down and creates the meeting women 101 vid for newbie males that the previous community manager had in the plans? The vid was supposed to list the do's and don'ts for a successful meet up.

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sweet_VM 61F  
80696 posts
10/28/2013 3:56 pm

The biggest issue for me is being pimped out on other sites which I have no interest in joining. Using our pics for Trans Date personal gain here. A while back Trans Date put our accounts over on a few other sites which we didn't agree too. if we agree that is great but we didn't. It sucked too being called a slut which I sure am not! hugs V

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anastasia666 41F  
2035 posts
10/27/2013 4:49 am

Hello,

I think this is a great post on what do women/ couples believe is the top 1 complaint. . For me personally I do not have the same issues. I have no problem with the msg center as it works fine for me. I am not concerned with the activites tho I do know others are.. My issue is the stalking/bullying that goes on in groups, chat rooms, blogs, magazine etc. I am not talking about the voting negative on comments (even though I do feel that is wrong..How does anyone vote on someones comment ?? ) or the arguements over site issues or policy changes. I am talking about other members using bully tactics to stalk/harass members on site. Breaking the TOU by posting members handle names or photographs without permission. To me this is my number 1 complaint as I keep hearing about it from both male and female members.I have seen this site lose really great members, both male and female, due to stalking/bullying/harassment. I am hoping the abuse dept can take a stronger hand in these type of cases so we can stop losing valuable members.

Thank you,

Ana6

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He made me pretty
He made me smart


JustJane13 48F  
1577 posts
10/26/2013 10:38 am

    Quoting SimplyinBC:
    As with the majority, it seems, I think it's ridiculous to make viewing each others profiles a paid option only. Email contact, watching multiple webcams, viewing larger pics - those are all logical upgrade options. I very much like the suggestion of having the contact made directly through the profile thereby increasing the chance they actually read the profile. I also would like my email filtering back, please.

    When it comes to marketing, again I'm with the majority. Stop advertising the women on here as sluts, suggesting (directly and indirectly) we'll fuck anyone who asks or even offers to pay (yes, it happens a lot).

    Thanks for asking, hopefully we'll see some improvements from the consistent responses noted by your members, both male and female.
Very well said, and all valid points. I agree with viewing larger photos and profiles.

And... thank you for posting just the facts, rather than fueling the heated debate this thread has become.


SimplyinBC 43F  
502 posts
10/26/2013 10:05 am

As with the majority, it seems, I think it's ridiculous to make viewing each others profiles a paid option only. Email contact, watching multiple webcams, viewing larger pics - those are all logical upgrade options. I very much like the suggestion of having the contact made directly through the profile thereby increasing the chance they actually read the profile. I also would like my email filtering back, please.

When it comes to marketing, again I'm with the majority. Stop advertising the women on here as sluts, suggesting (directly and indirectly) we'll fuck anyone who asks or even offers to pay (yes, it happens a lot).

Thanks for asking, hopefully we'll see some improvements from the consistent responses noted by your members, both male and female.


rdy2try4 54F  
3194 posts
10/26/2013 9:17 am

    Quoting FullOn4U:
    "For the record, many men post dick shots because they see so many OTHER men doing it."

    Really? For the record, how on earth do you know that?

    How many men's profiles do you think that men look at before deciding to post a cock shot?

    Cock shots and photos of gaping vaginas shouldn't be an issue any more. They are a red herring - if you don't like them then use the filter. Take responsibility, don't let them "shove their cocks" in your face. That's an example of precisely how the site should work - filtering out those aspects that you don't want to see, based on your preferences.

    "If you do not have that respect then we will not deal with you at all."

    Well "we" is a generalization, but I think that we can all agree with "treat me with respect or I will not deal with you at all".

    And the point is that it is your idea of what is respectful that determines whether you will reply. An approach that you find disrespectful might be just what another woman wants to hear! But by ignoring them you do tell them that their behaviour is not appropriate for you.
This is an attempt to divert the direction of this thread. That is all this is and nothing more. You are picking out specific words and ignoring the overall message and trying to change this totally. I will not respond to this as the thread should stay on track. Amazing how only MY words are being picked apart and no one else that has said the SAME things is being touched. I think I know exactly what is going on and by whom. Nuff said.....


FullOn4U 54M
20304 posts
10/26/2013 8:59 am

    Quoting rdy2try4:
    And this is a PERFECT example of what me and Beatrice are talking about. I NEVER said "ALL MEN" or "ALL WOMEN" nor did I say "TELL THEM" not to post cock shots. I specifically said many or most or for the most part in my sentences i.e. men are more visual than women for the most part. The only people I know that slam back with how WE should behave has been in my experience only those that had their behavior questioned and were too ignorant to take it as constructive criticism and use it as a learning tool. They would rather state that they have the RIGHT to shove their dicks in our faces and if we don't like it tough crap. Not everything is a "sermon", but it is helpful ADVICE. I was clear that yes SOME women DO like those photos, MANY do not. You may doubt it is possible to 'educate' anyone on this site, but that doesn't mean you look the other way and let it keep getting worse. WE DO have the right to say you will behave with respect when dealing with us. If you do not have that respect then we will not deal with you at all. If you had an inbox full of nothing but what you did NOT want you would quickly leave the site as many do. As a woman it is not attractive and gets old quickly to keep seeing 'wanna f*ck' and a dick shot and nothing else. No one learns to adapt or change their tactics unless someone TELLS THEM what it is that they are doing wrong. You can't fix something unless someone TELLS YOU that it is broken. Trust me, you CAN get kicked out of a bordello, and the behavior that is wrong there should also be wrong here. Ignorance is not an excuse.
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    I most definitely think that helping us with filtering out who can contact us i.e. married/no married/out of state/in state/too old or young can no longer email you if you set that as your cupid settings, is a GREAT step in the right direction. For the record, many men post dick shots because they see so many OTHER men doing it. If everyone was jumping off a bridge and killing themselves would you do it to?? I am betting not.
"For the record, many men post dick shots because they see so many OTHER men doing it."

Really? For the record, how on earth do you know that?

How many men's profiles do you think that men look at before deciding to post a cock shot?

Cock shots and photos of gaping vaginas shouldn't be an issue any more. They are a red herring - if you don't like them then use the filter. Take responsibility, don't let them "shove their cocks" in your face. That's an example of precisely how the site should work - filtering out those aspects that you don't want to see, based on your preferences.

"If you do not have that respect then we will not deal with you at all."

Well "we" is a generalization, but I think that we can all agree with "treat me with respect or I will not deal with you at all".

And the point is that it is your idea of what is respectful that determines whether you will reply. An approach that you find disrespectful might be just what another woman wants to hear! But by ignoring them you do tell them that their behaviour is not appropriate for you.


rdy2try4 54F  
3194 posts
10/26/2013 8:13 am

    Quoting FullOn4U:
    If you tell men not to have cock shots then they will point out that women post gyno shots - of course they will!

    Or tell you to use the photo filter - job done!

    You cannot tell people how to behave without them telling you how you should behave. And I doubt very much that it's possible to "educate" people on this site, after all, who should decide how other people should behave? It is impossible to generalize - some women insist on cock shots, some men are not "more visually driven than women".

    But... if men whose emails consist of "wanna fuck" never get responses from women who don't like that approach; if men who send cock shots to women who don't like them never get laid; if men who are abusive get blocked (and banned)... then maybe those men will learn to adopt a more different strategy.

    And some of the points raised here would help while this process takes place - better email filtering for one.

    However I'm not sure that anyone can tell people how they should behave.
And this is a PERFECT example of what me and Beatrice are talking about. I NEVER said "ALL MEN" or "ALL WOMEN" nor did I say "TELL THEM" not to post cock shots. I specifically said many or most or for the most part in my sentences i.e. men are more visual than women for the most part. The only people I know that slam back with how WE should behave has been in my experience only those that had their behavior questioned and were too ignorant to take it as constructive criticism and use it as a learning tool. They would rather state that they have the RIGHT to shove their dicks in our faces and if we don't like it tough crap. Not everything is a "sermon", but it is helpful ADVICE. I was clear that yes SOME women DO like those photos, MANY do not. You may doubt it is possible to 'educate' anyone on this site, but that doesn't mean you look the other way and let it keep getting worse. WE DO have the right to say you will behave with respect when dealing with us. If you do not have that respect then we will not deal with you at all. If you had an inbox full of nothing but what you did NOT want you would quickly leave the site as many do. As a woman it is not attractive and gets old quickly to keep seeing 'wanna f*ck' and a dick shot and nothing else. No one learns to adapt or change their tactics unless someone TELLS THEM what it is that they are doing wrong. You can't fix something unless someone TELLS YOU that it is broken. Trust me, you CAN get kicked out of a bordello, and the behavior that is wrong there should also be wrong here. Ignorance is not an excuse.
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I most definitely think that helping us with filtering out who can contact us i.e. married/no married/out of state/in state/too old or young can no longer email you if you set that as your cupid settings, is a GREAT step in the right direction. For the record, many men post dick shots because they see so many OTHER men doing it. If everyone was jumping off a bridge and killing themselves would you do it to?? I am betting not.


FullOn4U 54M
20304 posts
10/26/2013 7:51 am

    Quoting rdy2try4:
    I am going to make a note here because I can already see it on the horizon. Once women started complaining about the cock shots, the men started blasting back with 'but women have gyno shots too". YES! That is correct, many do. Many of us do not. I totally understand that men are more visually driven than women for the most part, but the idea that because you want to see our boobs we must reciprocate and want to see your penis is NOT always true!! Most of the time it is not. I know the comment of 'if you have THAT as a photo what did you expect" is going to land as well. To a point I agree, but I also think that you get ONE FIRST CHANCE... and if you ruin that then you are done. So THINK before you hit SEND as just because a photo of a woman is something that doesn't mean you become the most vulgar guy on the planet and expect her to want you for it. Being sexual and having sexuality and just blunt blatant crude are two different things.
If you tell men not to have cock shots then they will point out that women post gyno shots - of course they will!

Or tell you to use the photo filter - job done!

You cannot tell people how to behave without them telling you how you should behave. And I doubt very much that it's possible to "educate" people on this site, after all, who should decide how other people should behave? It is impossible to generalize - some women insist on cock shots, some men are not "more visually driven than women".

But... if men whose emails consist of "wanna fuck" never get responses from women who don't like that approach; if men who send cock shots to women who don't like them never get laid; if men who are abusive get blocked (and banned)... then maybe those men will learn to adopt a more different strategy.

And some of the points raised here would help while this process takes place - better email filtering for one.

However I'm not sure that anyone can tell people how they should behave.


FullOn4U 54M
20304 posts
10/26/2013 7:14 am

Ms BeatriceBenedict made some excellent points, particularly putting the problems of this site in the wider context of society in general. However this site is complicit in those problems...

Just follow the money.

We have to remember that the purpose of this site is not to meet our ideas of what we want from it (and in particular it has nothing to do with meeting like-minded people). It is all about making money for Various. That's why Aryana calls women "valuable elements". The presence of women on this site (regardless of the "get laid tonight" ads) is why men join. Without men paying for membership there is no site. And women are used (via Icebreakers for instance) to encourage men to pay for membership.

It's the same old story when it comes to sex: women are exploited for their earning potential.

I fully understand women's objections to the way A.F.F advertises itself, and I fully understand their concerns about the sister sites - I share those concerns because I'd never join "Fuck a Slut" and I don't particularly want to be associated with men (and women) who would. It's obvious that when people enter the site through different doorways they will have a different attitude to what the site is all about. What surprises me is the lack of complaints about the content of the site itself - not the way it portrays itself, or the people it attracts, but what it's selling. We are all members of a site that "employs" (I have no idea what their contractual arrangements might be) an army of sex workers - the "pay to chat with a real life model" women.

Now I don't want to argue over the moral aspects of being a sex worker, or the financial benefits, or even the "empowering" nature of being paid to show your bits on a cam, but I do think there is a question about the atmosphere that is created by the site selling these women. It doesn't even matter how much revenue A.F.F gets from these sex workers, it is the fact that they are part of an "adult dating" site when really they have no place there and should be on a "cyber prostitution" site. I believe that "pay to chat with real life models" is plain, simple objectification and perpetuates the economic domination of women - "I've paid twenty dollars, now wank yourself off".

Is that really the caring attitude of a site who wants to look after its "valuable elements"?

This is only one aspect of the site that contributes to an overall atmosphere. Now I'm not a prude, and I'm not a sensitive flower either. I can choose to ignore the close up photos of genitalia without getting too upset by them. I can choose to ignore the stupid, rude, crass, unthoughtful behaviour of people on this site without it worrying me too much. I can choose to ignore the less savoury aspects of sexual behaviour (as I see it) without judging others for their preferences. However, while I have been on this site it has ceased to become an adult dating site and has morphed into a site that is only interested in selling sex products to frustrated men.

Maybe it is naive to expect otherwise. After all, none of these complaints is new (with the exception of the atrocity that is spam blogging); nobody has come up with anything that hasn't been said many times before. And yet nothing has been done to achieve the idea of a more "female friendly" site.

P.S. Given the massive imbalance between the numbers of men and women already on this site, just why does it advertise exclusively to men?


rdy2try4 54F  
3194 posts
10/26/2013 7:13 am

I am going to make a note here because I can already see it on the horizon. Once women started complaining about the cock shots, the men started blasting back with 'but women have gyno shots too". YES! That is correct, many do. Many of us do not. I totally understand that men are more visually driven than women for the most part, but the idea that because you want to see our boobs we must reciprocate and want to see your penis is NOT always true!! Most of the time it is not. I know the comment of 'if you have THAT as a photo what did you expect" is going to land as well. To a point I agree, but I also think that you get ONE FIRST CHANCE... and if you ruin that then you are done. So THINK before you hit SEND as just because a photo of a woman is something that doesn't mean you become the most vulgar guy on the planet and expect her to want you for it. Being sexual and having sexuality and just blunt blatant crude are two different things.


rdy2try4 54F  
3194 posts
10/26/2013 7:07 am

BeatriceBenedict, HOW FUNNY that it is the same person saying that to you as well. The self proclaimed 'men get what they want and women just go with it or leave' guy, it doesn't surprise me. YES, I don't blame everyone on one place or person, but the posting of "get laid tonight in 24 hours" after you sign up and seeing all the dick shots, porn, and no faces now coupled with all the ads and crap from Penthouse on here they think that it is acceptable. No, it is not acceptable. I believe whole heartedly that we should be able to control our content of what we receive and see on here should be more in our hands rather than be told that the site wants us to interact more. Well, I will interact.... with whom "I" want to, not who the site says I have to. Even if you are here for just straight up sex one should have some modicum of class and respect and send something more polite than 'wanna f*ck' and a photo taken so close you can see their bladder down the urethra of their dick that is purple from them choking it in an attempt to make it look larger because after all we are women and we only see larger dicks. NO, we avoid larger dicks!! (get the pun there) If I wanted to go out and meet a dick, an a**Hole, or a boob I don't need to be here to do that. They are everywhere. The internet has such potential to connect people yet it seems as you said no matter the venue if you are a woman on the internet using a site you are a whore/slut and not worthy of respect. That mentalitly NEEDS to change as well as the idea that if a woman likes or wants sex she is somehow less in deserving of respect. Guys, if you want to get laid do NOT INSULT US with this type of behavior. It won't get you anywhere and it only makes us less likely to meet the good ones because you ruin it for them. This morning again I had an invite to network even though my profile says clearly I don't want one. HIS profile clearly states he doesn't want any men i.e. "LADIES ONLY!! I am not into men sorry." Ummm.. I wrote him and said, seriously, "if you want YOUR profile respected then freaking RESPECT OTHERS!!" I just don't get how or why so many people think their preferences over ride anothers and that this is a 'sex site' and you are here ONLY to f*ck.. if not.. get out. SORRY.. it is not an online whorehouse. Even if I was here looking for sex we ALL have the right to say NO and not be obligated to meet and/or especially f*ck anyone!!!! Getting bent out of shape because you can't have THAT girl is only childish and totally pathetic when you lash out and insult them for it.


LadyGrayLeopard 59F
26385 posts
10/26/2013 6:58 am

    Quoting FullOn4U:
    "No FullOn, don't do it"

    "Yes, FullOn, yes. Do it, you know you want to!"

    "No FullOn, it would be wrong. It's not her fault. Don't mock the afflicted"

    "Do it, FullOn. How can you resist that which you desire?"

    Oh, alright then...

    "Spam blogging" ?

    I know I'm just a man, not a valuable element. (Really ladies, nobody objected to that? Nobody wondered at the attitude of ARF thinking you are "valuable" to them?). I know I wasn't invited to comment and my opinion is worthless...

    But I've read the comments and I'm pretty sure that the women who think "spam blogging" is the most serious threat to civilization as we know it are in a distinct minority!
Well... we are all here for different reason...

Some only for blogging.
For different reasons


LadyGrayLeopard 59F
26385 posts
10/26/2013 6:55 am

In my case it's the messages.
Which are not mails anymore.

Furthermore it's too easy to send messages, WITHOUT READING THE PROFILE.

As the site refuses to make changes to the current message center (= no real folders, no real filters etc), and the advertising is what is, at least make it possible to send a message ONLY through the profile page!

This way some chance people might see what I'm looking for. And what I'm not.

Most of us are normal, real women, not hookers, not waiting for all the guys to contact us.
Just the matching ones.

And yes: add the marital status among the most important preferences.
This is often the most important factor.


rdy2try4 54F  
3194 posts
10/25/2013 11:23 pm

BeatriceBenedict, I agree with much of what you say and want to state that I was personally told about a year ago when I made comments about the way men approach women on this site and gave examples and ideas on what to say and do to show them different ways to contact us that it was, and I quote, "a sermon" and a turn off. I was attacked because I had a friend that had an Ice Breaker that gave ideas on how the site worked and all and right out of the gate I was attacked because one of the blogs listed started with the lines "Welcome to the site, a must read for newbies". A man responded angrily with "Why did you send me this? I didn't contact you." I still stand by the opening line of Welcome to the Site should have said much to this ignorant person, but I was told that it was wrong and again it sounded like a sermon. I find it vastly interested that anyone TRYING to help and give some HELPFUL advice that if it ventures away from "this is a sex site b*tch" and the demand for instant sex that it is considered a sermon and WE as women are told if we don't like it then to leave the site. I was called a man hater because I said I didn't like the way men did this and totally was yanked out and dragged across the floor by my virtual hair for simply stating that I found that it was a great idea for someone to give helpful advice in their Ice Breaker. H*ll, I was even told that calling a member a newbie was insulting now. In regards to not posting a dick pic, I was told that those men MAY find what they want and it is not my place or anyone else's to suggest different. I was told that to approach anyone with this advice was NOT being interested in HIM, but rather interested in poking their nose into his business, telling him how to approach and act toward women, not toward you, because you don't want him to approach you at all, but EVERY single OTHER woman on the site. .
I found it vastly interesting as this is only the tip of how I was raked over the coals, that it was MY fault or OUR fault as women that somehow because we were on this site that we should sit back, shut up, and do as we are told or leave. We should expect this and do nothing as that IS the way it IS just like you said and no one should ever try to change it. I am sorry, just as I said then I will repeat now. If no one ever spoke up about sl*very, then it would still be an institution. If no one ever speaks up then change NEVER comes. I may like sex and want it. Many women may like sex and want it. NO ONE deserves to be treated like less than a human because of that nor should they be expected to have sex with anyone and everyone be they married/not married, in state/out of state, old/young, fat/skinny, ANYTHING.
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I am constantly told that by having settings that weed out or stop someone from being able to contact me that "I" am somehow the problem. That man, regardless of who he is, WANTS to contact me and I should let him do so or HE gets discouraged and will not be happy. TOUGH F*CKING CHIT!!!! I am not here to entertain anyone, screw anyone I don't want to or like, nor have to send a polite reply to anyone that just ignored my entire profile because he is so ignorant that he thinks this is an online whorehouse. I was told to blame the site not the men. I BLAME BOTH!! The site makes the ads, many men do not act that way. Many MORE men DO and it isn't just because the site says 'get laid in 24 hours'. That is something inherently wrong with them and as you stated our society. The idea of 'hooking up' and 'NSA' now seems to be the way people interact and the art of talking and socializing is getting lost in the 'I want it now f*ck you' attitude that permeates everything. What someone else wants should NEVER override what someone else wants... EVER!!!
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I had ideas on how to cut down some things. Make a set of options for "A - accept all flirts/winks; B - accept only flirts/winks that match my Cupid settings; C - don't accept any flirts/winks". It went over great, till I was told I was being unsociable and should not stop anyone from contacting me. IF I DON'T WANT TO SCREW A MARRIED MAN THEN I SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO DECLINE THEM CONTACTING ME!! It only, in my opinion, makes the frustration and rejections to them worse. They are setting themselves up for that rejection and if they didn't have the ability to contact me at all then they would NOT be rejected now would they? I so hate reading profiles claiming we are rude and horrible and disrespectful if we can't reply to ALL our emails and politely say no. Again, F*ck that!! I shouldn't have to tell the guy from 2000 miles away that is married that my profile is clear and I regret to inform you that I will not be f*cking you on any night as politely as "I" can be so "HE" doesn't get his feelings hurt. Usually they reply with now I am no longer the hottie that he would die for and go miles and miles to please and treat like a queen to I am a fat, ugly b*tch, a whore that is just leading men on, and a c*nt like myself should get off the site.
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This is an Adult SOCIAL network, not a whorehouse. There are blogs, articles, groups and things here as well as people just doing chat, exhibitionism and voyeurism, and just about anything sexual that is NOT just meeting someone for sex be it instantly, one time, or long term. I am so sick of "this is a sex site b*tch" and being told to get off the site if I am not going to run to service HIM (whoever he is). Yes, there are unsolicited HATE emails sent by men to women on here that have any type of a profile that eliminates them from being able to f*ck her. Sad and pathetic... it is totally on the men for that behavior, NOT the site. They hit send, they chose to write it. The site can have any ad they like, but in the end it is that person that chooses to write vitriol and send it. I think people should take responsibility for themselves not just pass the blame on to others.


rdy2try4 54F  
3194 posts
10/25/2013 1:27 pm

    Quoting lemoncrunchcake:
    Can you PLEASE delete all of my posts from this blog, and any that quote me, thank you. Apparently asking this in a private message was not sufficient.

    There's been quite the hostile reaction to my concern/input. So I withdraw all of it. I shall refrain from interacting in future.

    Thank you.

PLEASE.. do not leave or have anything deleted. I for one appreciated your input. Although I disagree with having people vote on anything on another person as it DOES get abused, it is just wrong, you did have a positive attitude towards minimizing the problem. It is a difficult thing to get so many men to think that they have to be polite to what they perceive as whores/sluts, but they need to realize women that like sex are not whores/sluts. The site NEEDS to stop saying we are whores/sluts.
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As for your idea of do nothing and let them show their colors, I again repeat, I didn't sign up to answer no thank you only to get slammed and insulted by men who, had they READ the profile, would have known they had no chance in the first place. Then we get repeat messages that get consecutively worse as they don't get answered. I don't have a secretary to answer the myriad of emails I get. Men don't get the messages we get so they have no clue they are in the midst of some 100 emails or more to some women. I have blogs that show the types of emails we get at Rdy's Info Blogs to show what we get and what you are up against. Many have no clue. Some even think we 'owe' them a no thank you even if they ignored the entire profile and they know it. I DO outline some of the BEST messages as well. NOT ALL MEN are horrible here... please.. do not stop posting.


rdy2try4 54F  
3194 posts
10/25/2013 1:22 pm

Aryana, I was outright attacked for posting information that is being posted by almost every woman so far. NO, not all women see it, but most do. The fact that men act like they are somehow 'owed' sex by us because you, the site, promised it to them, is just beyond appalling. We get messages that are so below the bottom of the ocean's own bottom that you wonder how do these men even function in a day??? SERIOULSY... there are beer commercials that if you drink THAT beer the Swedish Bikini Team parachutes out of the air instantly, or the OTHER beer that if you open it then it starts to snow indoors!!! They are ADS and we all know that, so there are no men disappointed that there is no bikini team, they have a brain. HOWEVER....and that is a large however... when it comes to sex men CHOOSE to believe THAT ad as it is what they WANT to happen i.e. a place full of hot women that f*ck any guy no matter how ugly, disgusting, smelly, illiterate, and ignorant he is we will just run to service him with no questions. I participated in an online magazine article for the site way back and a man even then said that there is no such place and that this site is basically a fantasy. What makes it worse is that you now advertise even worse and they come here thinking we are Stretch Armstrong dolls and want to shove every disgusting item then can find inside our vaginas and have all their buddies do us with them and of course get to f*ck all our friends too. Their vulgar emails show it. NO ONE would say that to anyone in person, or at least I HOPE NOT, as they would get slapped instantly. This site doesn't care, they let them do it and promote it.
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I for one did NOT get a gold membership to be called a slut, whore, tramp, c*nt, b*tch, or anything else because I REFUSE to service you as you THINK the site said you would get. I have seen with my own eyes in the chatrooms, in blogs, in articles, and in emails the constant overtone of men thinking ** this is a SEX site b*tch ** and we are not supposed to have to talk or interact at all as if this is a sluts-r-us drive through. SORRY!!!! I am sure they wouldn't want anyone in their family treated that way, and just because a woman likes or wants sex does not mean she is not deserving of RESPECT.
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I know of a few men on here that specifically state that ** We (women) know what the site is and if not we learn quickly after singing up. If we are so disgusted then leave. By staying you are okaying it. ** Ummm...WRONG!!! On all counts that is so wrong. If you truly want the women to leave that don't like it you will be left with pretty much the fake profiles, a few hoookers, and the rest would be men. More men are willing to screw anything with a hole that lets them than women and they get p*ssed when they don't get that on here when a woman says 'I wanna get to know you'. The idea of NSA (no strings attached) has been seen as NSA (never see again) and we know it. Men thinking NSA means I don't have to talk to you, take you to dinner, or any contact prior to letting me stick my dick in you and get myself off is rampant on here. I KNOW NOT ALL MEN ARE LIKE THAT!!!! THANK GOODNESS!!! Unfortunately there are more of those on this site with the ads of "get free sex instantly" on here than one cares to know.
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I am sorry for this to be so long, truly I am, but I just can't help but say it along with the others and repeat that I did not sign up to send 'no thank you' messages for hours on end to men that didn't match ANYTHING "I" wanted at all. This site is not about MEN getting what they want, it should be about PEOPLE having a good time. Some of the best blogs on how to behave on here are written by MEN... yes MEN. The good men suffer from the a**holes that log in thinking this is a whorehouse warehouse. They get frustrated as they didn't get their free instant p*ssy then fill the blogs and chat convos with 'this place sucks, no one here wants to f*ck' because that is what they think it is. COMMON SENSE should say it is an AD like the beer commercial, but with the photos and the fakes and all the rest, they fall for it and the entire site pays for it. First contact should not be a dick shoved in your face and 'wanna f*ck' for the only words. Quasimodo had a dick and women are usually not blind to everything once they see a dick.


FullOn4U 54M
20304 posts
10/25/2013 10:45 am

"No FullOn, don't do it"

"Yes, FullOn, yes. Do it, you know you want to!"

"No FullOn, it would be wrong. It's not her fault. Don't mock the afflicted"

"Do it, FullOn. How can you resist that which you desire?"

Oh, alright then...

"Spam blogging" ?

I know I'm just a man, not a valuable element. (Really ladies, nobody objected to that? Nobody wondered at the attitude of ARF thinking you are "valuable" to them?). I know I wasn't invited to comment and my opinion is worthless...

But I've read the comments and I'm pretty sure that the women who think "spam blogging" is the most serious threat to civilization as we know it are in a distinct minority!


JustJane13 48F  
1577 posts
10/25/2013 5:02 am

    Quoting BrownEyedBBW:
    *A note: just the fact that a few men feel sense of entitlement to respond to a question that wasn't asked of them to tell the women that what they think is wrong should give whomever is looking at this an idea of the attitude a lot of the women are talking about.

    Anyway......

    There is my #1 complaint but I don't know that you can fix it so I'll talk about what can be done to get around it.

    My number #1 complaint is the useless messages I get in my inbox.

    The 18 year olds and 60 year olds who try t tell me age doesn't matter
    The married men
    The couples
    The guys who live 100 miles away but insist that it's no problem for them to drive it tonight to see me (for sex of course)
    The truckers and businessmen who think I'm a stuck up bitch for not meeting them (a perfect stranger) in their hotel for sex)

    In the past the cupid settings could be filtered more finely and we had the ability to have any mail that didn't match ou cupid settings to get dumped in a special folder.

    All of those emails I listed above would have gone into that folder and I would get around to it when I get around to it.Now i all gets dumped into my inbox and I have to go through them all.

    The problem I see though , is that you are selling access and if you give us back the ability to screen out the chaff in our message center, that will cut off access for a lot of men so I don't know what you'll do there.
My exact thoughts - word for word.


lil_whimsical 49F  
8790 posts
10/24/2013 11:57 pm

I first came to this site, about 11 years ago. Women have ALWAYS complained that we do not appreciate being advertised as free fuck-tonight whores. This site advertises to men that they will get laid the night that they sign up, by willing sluts. They come on the site, they treat us exactly the way that you tell them they can treat us. They are rejected. Then they are hostile and rude.

You establish the environment, they behave accordingly.

And it isn't just these "affiliate sites" that are at fault - and those are a WHOLE SEPARATE COMPLAINT. It's Trans Date advertising itself.

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By the way, when I ran the search for Trans Date ads - I came up with photos of TONS of members. People I recognize and could tell you their handles. THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE!!!


BrownEyedBBW 51F  
8859 posts
10/24/2013 7:16 pm

*A note: just the fact that a few men feel sense of entitlement to respond to a question that wasn't asked of them to tell the women that what they think is wrong should give whomever is looking at this an idea of the attitude a lot of the women are talking about.

Anyway......

There is my #1 complaint but I don't know that you can fix it so I'll talk about what can be done to get around it.

My number #1 complaint is the useless messages I get in my inbox.

The 18 year olds and 60 year olds who try t tell me age doesn't matter
The married men
The couples
The guys who live 100 miles away but insist that it's no problem for them to drive it tonight to see me (for sex of course)
The truckers and businessmen who think I'm a stuck up bitch for not meeting them (a perfect stranger) in their hotel for sex)

In the past the cupid settings could be filtered more finely and we had the ability to have any mail that didn't match ou cupid settings to get dumped in a special folder.

All of those emails I listed above would have gone into that folder and I would get around to it when I get around to it.Now i all gets dumped into my inbox and I have to go through them all.

The problem I see though , is that you are selling access and if you give us back the ability to screen out the chaff in our message center, that will cut off access for a lot of men so I don't know what you'll do there.


flyinghow603 48M  
275 posts
10/24/2013 6:44 pm

Women are the most valuable, straight men have all the standard memberships, and gay men keep the place aflot with the most gold memberships and get the most substandard service. Makes sense to me!


JustJane13 48F  
1577 posts
10/24/2013 5:08 pm

One other thing, since my top concern is the lack of filtering based on cupid settings.

What happened to the other cupid settings? I have way more preferences than age and location. Marital status being one of the biggest.


JustJane13 48F  
1577 posts
10/24/2013 5:04 pm

One of my bigger complaints, is that I cannot filter what emails I get. The filters we have now, do not weed out anything. I do not want to hear from anyone who doesn't match the cupid settings, it's just that simple. I get countless responses from married men, extremely young (18+ years old) or couples. My profile clearly states what I am, and what I am not looking for. Not a single person who has contacted me, has read my profile.

The fact that this post is addressed to the WOMEN on this site, and MEN are answering, well that should be a tell tale sign of why I would like this filter. They all feel they are the exception to everything, and it's beyond frustrating.

I would appreciate if we did not have to look at a giant photo of some woman, no matter if we log in from the desktop or mobile sites. I am not here for women.

I also agree with dnafun11. If the men were able to see all of my photos, then they may be more apt to pay to make contact. I really can't tell you the number of times I'm chatting on the webcam, and I am told "sorry I can't read your profile" like I'm their personal customer service agent.

I can echo the other things the ladies here have said about having my profile put on different sites. Particularly, those those geared toward married men as I DO NOT and will not date (or sleep with) a married man.

Thank you for allowing us this space to vent our frustrations, and for listening to them.


outtherelinda 53F  
18902 posts
10/24/2013 4:38 pm

I think my top gripe would be that the site continually makes unnecessary 'improvements' which stuff up not only that part of the site but other parts as well. Not only that but it takes you lot so long to rectify all these glitches and major stuff ups.

The other thing that annoys me about this site is that when a member emails customer service about an issue the response we get back makes it very clear that either there is no actual person reading the email or that all the staff in customer service are total idiots. I say this because more often than not the response we receive has absolutely nothing to do with our original email. For example someone might email CS to inquire about why a particular photo had been denied and the reply would be clear your browser or delete cookies.

Linda


Feel free to come and check out my blog outtherelinda


sexysixties2 72F  
38731 posts
10/24/2013 12:17 pm

My main complaint is that I joined one site only Adult/Friend/Finder....and yet my profile and blog appear on hundreds of sites portraying me to some sort of slut. We should be able to opt out of appearing on the affiliate sites.

My second gripe is that we can no longer opt out of receiving messages by turning off the message box on our profiles.


"Age does not protect you from love, but love, to some extent, protects you from age."

~~Anais Nin~~


needluv694me 73M  
555 posts
10/24/2013 8:06 am

    Quoting lemoncrunchcake:
    Sigh, OK, grudgingly posting here even though I'm a single guy and therefore this blog is nt for me. Please feel free to delete this post if I am out of line.

    I have a concern with regards to the substandard 'first contacts' that many/all women on here get.

    I honestly do not believe it is a good idea to try and educate those guys to do better. I can understand it must be pretty shitty for the ladies, sometimes even disturbing I'm sure, but I think a better way to handle that is to use it as a filtering process. Those people, you don't want to know them (and the disturbing ones, report them).

    Why do I have this view?

    Isn't it better to weed out the chaff as early as possible? If you educate the neanderthal guys who send out those messages to put on a veneer, an act of being all nice and respectful, how long will they keep that up for? Will they keep that up when you first meet them? What about once you're in the bedroom with them? It could be pretty bad if they drop that act when it's harder or too late for you to take action.

    By trying to make them appear nice you're basically telling them to lie, and if there's one thing I really can't stand it is dishonesty.

    This is why I feel it's better to let those guys be total dicks. It is who they are. They're losers. You wouldn't want to meet them even if they put on an act?

    Perhaps better solutions could be put in place. Maybe a setting to auto delete any incoming email if it's under a certain word count? Maybe a way for mail recipients to vote on a senders communication skills. Perhaps women can then set their mailbox to auto delete any incoming message from a sender who has had too many down votes? I'd make the score hidden, otherwise the sender, on seeing their score go down, might start to act all nice. And yes, I see such a system could be abused as most voting systems often are, but I'm just throwing out a couple of ideas to try and be constructive without making people who are already nervous about meeting strangers off here more nervous.

    Long post, sorry.
I agree to the extent that a lot of the male members of the site need long-term education in the social graces. I also agree with the women that making their profiles available through a site called "Fuck Local Sluts," et. al., does nothing to promote the idea that the women who join the site are, or want to be, anything other than receptacles for horny men.
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Changing the behavior of these men is a lost cause, but better filtering of fakes and scammers would gt rid of some of them. Also, there ought to be a rule that no penis shots are allowed as a main profile photo.
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I also agree with the woman who said that artificially inflating membership numbers with long-inactive accounts is not only misleading, but wastes server space.
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In addition, I've heard it said that the site software must have been written using the same techniques used to develop the Obamacare portal...new glitches occur regularly, and what's worse, old glitches that have been fixed show up time and time again when other changes are made.
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buxombbw4u 52F
16042 posts
10/24/2013 7:41 am

#1: The fact that the site promotes female members as free whores.
No wonder the men treat us like crap when you constantly promote it as they can "sign up today and get laid tonight". I could also promote "take the bus and get laid tonight". Either one COULD happen, but the chances are extremely slim. It sets up unrealistic expectations on the part of men, and sets females up to treated with zero respect.

#2: Standard members should be able to read profiles. From a business point of view, why not set it up that they can view profiles, even if they can't email or flirt... it might entice them to join as paying members. Right now, they can't see the women they are missing out on.

2020: you've got a lot to live up to - 2019 was awesome!


BlkWhtSwingers 35M/34F  
29 posts
10/24/2013 2:57 am

Having been on this site now since 2003, my sentiments are echoed by the previous posters.

Back when we joined in 2003 it was much easier to connect with serious people that were on this site looking to actually connect, moreso than just coming on the site looking to gaze at pictures/videos. Of course, back then, Trans Date was still in it's early developmental stages, and as with anything in life, as the years go on, you're going to find yourself with more and more people coming on board, many of whom have no idea as to why they're on here (Co-branding this site as alluded to above certainly hasn't helped one bit).

The fact that there are now more fake profiles than ever, is a big issue on this site. In talking with others, it appears that many people on here begin to realize the whole webcam girl scam at an early part of their membership on this site. That there demoralizes many on this site, and as a result, you begin to notice a low quality overall of those on the site.

When you are engaging people on here, and they begin to take notice that many profiles on this site aren't really what they say they are, then ultimately guys begin to take the site for more than just a joy ride, not really bothering to read up on profiles, and once they check out pics/vids, leading to less than pleasing introductory messages.

It's got to the point for me/us that we had to put on our profile that we simply will not entertain the idea of replying to anyone that only has faceless cock/pussy shots. We take the time to fill out our profile as best we can, and in the process also make sure our pics match the description, and hope that it will engage people that are on the site who are serious about connecting, but more and more that does not appear to be the case.

Despite the countless amount of warnings on our profile, we still keep getting a ton of unwanted emails from single guys that can't seem to read and just send cock shots, with their phone numbers, and asking if we're available to meet up that day for a quickie. There is truth to the fact that conversation is becoming a lost art form, especially this day in age with the amount of social media/networking around. While we are thankful for the advances made within the information highway, it too has taken a toll in the sheer amount of people that have access to it, to the point that not only this site, but many others on the internet have become diluted with the types that we'd never entertain in real life, let alone online.

That's just my 2 cents.

Mrs BlkWhtSwingers


LoveJunkie2015 37F
488 posts
10/24/2013 12:16 am

My only real complaint is the way a lot of men talk to me on this site. As stated previously, they seem to be under some impression that we are free hookers and are obligated to screw them automatically because they paid for membership. Maybe provide them some tips on how to send respectful messages when they create their profile? And maybe encourage them not to post only a dozen cock pics and nothing else. Your cock looks the same from all directions and does not catch my interest.

I also feel that since the men outnumber women so greatly, why not just offer free gold memberships to ladies to get them to sign on? I greatly appreciate my free gold, but when it expires, I'm not likely to pay to stay. I was perfectly happy as a standard member with popularity privileges, able to view profiles and do just about all but send messages and flirts. Offering free Gold to ladies might help some of the men who have simply given up. They send messages to fake profiles and then become greatly discouraged from receiving no real replies. If ladies are able to just contact them first, I think that would make everyone happy.


LadyLuck2 63F  
8699 posts
10/23/2013 9:33 pm

The marketing or advertising department depicts the women here as less than ladies. Your membership numbers depend upon the women who frequent this site. Instead of treating us like sluts, try treating us as goddesses. Look at how popular the Anastasia dating site is and take a lesson or 10.

Never ignore those who care for you
you will have lost diamonds
while you were collecting stones


dnafun11 46M/45F  
2862 posts
10/23/2013 5:52 pm

Hmmm top complaints?

Well, men who cannot take a polite 'no thank you' without berating the woman they had just expressed a profound desire for. Men who think that because they paid for a membership here that every female they contact now owes them sex like we are prepaid prostitutes. This belief is perpetuated by the site guaranteeing that they will get laid tonight, right now, this minute if they would just hand over their credit card free pussy will open for them with no effort required. Maybe you need a tutorial for the men. Remind them that manners are needed online just as they are face to face. If men came up to me in a bar, even a known swingers bar, a swingers party or swingers event with some of the crass lines they try here my hand would be very bruised from smacking them for the insult. To be honest some would get punched.

The men posing as couples scammers. Because no one will ever figure that one out...

The fake profiles that abound here. Other sites can manage to control this issue far better. Why can't Various, Inc? This is a huge issue that is very well known by those that have been here for more than a week or two. Considering the cost of the site, which is far more expensive that other competing sites who can manage to keep this problem under control. The other top site charges $14.95 for a month, $29 for 3 months, $69 for 12 months and $149 for a lifetime membership. They have next to no issue with prostitutes and fraudulent people trying to rob you over the internet.

All the dead profiles. Falsely inflating your numbers by keeping them on the books does nothing for long term interest in the site. People catch on and lose interest when they realize that they have to sort through so much dead weight in an attempt to find a real live person to communicate with. Again an item that people figure out pretty fast around here.

Everyone should be able to read a profile. You want good bait to get men, people to pay for a membership than they need to see something worth paying for. If they can see pics and read a profile in it's entirety they are going to be far more likely to want to contact. Especially the men if they can see those pics they will want to meet the one in the pictures bad enough to pay to contact the other person. Remember men are visual, give them the eye candy and they will want more. Makes for an easy sale...

I'm sure if I give it a little time I can list a few more. But this is what I came up with off the top of my head.

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